Where did the Prophets go?
Ephesians 4:11 – 13
And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ:
1 Corinthians 12:27 – 30;
Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.
And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?
— Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?
In all my many years of church I have seen much coming and going, for various reasons. I mostly felt comfortable to stand on the sidelines in the body, observing and praying. I’m not much of a joiner when it comes to groups. That’s not on purpose but by Devine design.
When I do get thrown into something it was more out of certain individuals guilting me that I should be taking more of a part in leadership activities.
When I try, I feel like an alien, out of place, or a cog wheel that is miss aligned, trying to fit in to a system that is not familiar to myself or others.
I’m not a joiner nor am I a quitter. When I do, It’s something that I know that the Lord wants and prepared me for. If I do leave it’s usually out of oppression by personalities in the congregation. Not nessisarily by the leadership.
Just because someone spends time in prayer with the Lord and the Lord speaks to them doesn’t mean they need to join or lead a prayer group.
Just because the Spirit of the Lord Speaks to them doesn’t always make a prophet to be put on stage to speak and be a revelator.
I’m most comfortable when I know I’m where God wants me. When He has placed me out of my box or shell he has repaired me with something to present, He will on the most part provide confirmation.
When the Spirit of the Lord presents something that did’t make sense. Even the messenger wants to make sense of something the Lord said to them and try to figure it out. And later down the road it wasn’t what they thought. That’s why the Lord will revelate mystery’s. We thank Him for the Word and glorify him when the word unfolds.
Which brings me to the theme of this blog:
Where are the Prophets
Not conspirators but inspirator’s
Not too long ago, I watched a minister on YouTube ragged on Prophets in the body of Christ. In knowing some of their past experiences with them, I knew the source of the message was coming from some past prophetic baggage. I know, because I’ve had to deal with some of the same individuals and some of the same baggage. I’ve started receiving clues about their message on FB. And the first thing I thought, this was prophetic baggage, and reacted to a brothers post, then I watch the message. The pastor was correct on the most part but you don’t throw out the baby with the prophetic bath water.
In my understanding of their message, they believe that they, the Prophets no longer have a place in the body of Christ. That the prophets went out with John the Baptist.
This ministers message was a result of much prophetic contentions and seemed misdirections in the church world in our recent times. The end result, when the smoke cleared, it seemed the prophetic world got slapped in the face, or did they? During this time I stood back and observed the prophetic trends. They also blamed certain groups of people for the woes of our church and country. Or could they have misread the signs what God was doing in the church, country and in the world. I know, I did. However the Lord already prepared me for this before hand. We had one idea in mind, but the Lord has another.
Even Daniel and John didn’t fully know what God had in mind for the future.
God does have an endgame and we’re in it!
And my thought on this matter has to do with the two passages at the beginning.
If the prophets are not there (or shouldn’t be), then what happened to or with the teachers and pastors.
Then where are the Apostles and Prophets.
The head of the Church should be Jesus Christ, then the Apostles, Prophets, then evangelists, then pastors and teachers. Then the Spiritual Gifts and the gifts of helps.
For what reason? Perfecting the saints and the building of the Body of Christ. We are the only Jesus our eyes will see in our life time.
File a missing persons report with Jesus if they are not there.
I have seen pastors in the past attack their apostles. I have seen prophets attack their pastors and the other way around.
I have seen individuals take members and go out and start their own following when it should be a gathering.
Feelings got hurt by both party’s and ministries went their separate ways. It was more about control, pride and manipulation over the people, and not maturity.
I have seen many future pastors that weren’t sent out but stormed out to start something new.
God can use that. Barnabas and Paul did part their ways with such differences. One wanted someone on their team and the other didn’t get the job. Bye, in the Lord’s name.
Yes, the Lord can use that. After all Peter wanted to set up a colony of Believers and form a government per say and the Lord had something else in mind and sent them on their way because of persecution, He wouldn’t have gotten His endgame on if he didn’t. The Holy Roman Empire & Islam was born out of much of the same contention among the people and wanted control because they thought they had the right thing going on and formed governments.
Are the offerings down, are the numbers down, is the help from the body few and far between.
Are feel good sermons tickling emotions with holy ghost chills running down the spines? Are pastors obsessive compulsive with the leaders and congregation?
I have seen where the prophetic gift to the body was eliminated or squelched, the whole house of cards started to fall.
I have seen not only spiritual growth in faith and giving come to an end when a prophetic voice came to a close. I have also seen the Holy Spirit of inspiration fly out the window because someone stepped in and complained, because they felt offended or this didn’t go by the way of their style of belief.
I have also seen a prophet and leader of a ministry all of a sudden be taken home to be with his Savior. I saw the house collapse to the foundation. The prophetic voice was gone, I saw some individuals go and new ones come. The cash flow came to trickle. Those closest to him remained faithful and built something new to keep the vision alive. I’m only bringing this up because the Prophetic inspiration plays a important part in keeping the blessings flowing.
Who’s at fault? Jesus? or the ministers. Could be both.
Did the Holy Spirit quit his day job?
Would the Lord remove the part of the body that speaks and confirms the will of God.
Edifying the Body isn’t personal gratification for personalities.
Would our Lord toss aside one of his organs or appendages? That would have mad His mission a lame duck.
Don’t toss aside but impart, and be impartial and not partial.
Take Jesus’s example, He encompassed them all by example, He imparted a them all to disciple his disciples.
It’s not in part but in whole.
Maybe there is a part of the body that is weak, pray to strengthen that part, bring complete healing or a transplant. Have a new to you heart transplant. That is an option.
Be transparent in the Holy Spirit Anointing and the Gifts of the of the Body of Christ.
If the gifts are not there, then where did we misplace them.
Don’t make it more about the personality than The Person.
Then it comes down to the inspiration of God’s word and gifts of the Holy Spirit to build and strengthen faith in Jesus Christ,
Does it seem like the Head is missing?
To be continued…
Prophets or Diviner’s?